Amira
I am doing a photoshoot for a 15 yr old girl. it is her quinceanera. i am doing an outdoor photoshoot. most of the questions i have are based on the photos i will be taking at her party in april. please help me. i am not a professional but her mother saw some pictures i did of a couple and she really liked them. I have a Canon rebel EOS T3i 18 MP camera. i dont have any special lens, just an 18-55mm lens .
1. How do i get the maximum color quality for outdoor pictures? what adjustments do i make to the camera?
2. How do i take pictures at the party with low-dim lighting?
3. How would you suggest i take pictures at the party without being in peoples' way?
4. What exposure should i use when taking pictures at the party? (ISO #??)
5. What aperture adjustments should i use when doing outdoor and indoor photos?
6. What is the best image editing software to use for these photos?
7. What white balance adjustments do i need to make for indoor and outdoor photos?
8. What kind of lens hood should i buy for the outdoor photos?
Thanks you for all your help, its okay if you cant answer them all. Whatever info i get is useful
thanks steve, but i believe i did mention that i am NOT a professional photographer. i merely bought the camera to practice as a hobby and got noticed because of some pictures i took. then, got hired by the person who liked the pictures
THANK YOU ERIC for answering my questions and talking to me like an adult. everyone thinks im trying to be a pro but i DID TELL HER over and over again that I AM NOT a professional and i dont promise EXCEPTIONAL results. I was straight forward with her and told her that i am inexperienced to do the party, but im still going to do the outdoor photoshoot, because im stronger in that area than with live events. thank you once again for not being immature or critical
Answer
So doing a paid gig with just one camera and a kit lens ... what will you do if your camera stops working mid shoot? You won't be bale to complete the contract and you are putting yourself at risk of being sued.
Your camera is fine but you need a backup, your kit lens is too slow and soft, rent a 24-70 f2.8 (30$ for a day/wekend). You'll also need two flashes (rental cost: 18$ each).
Now on to your points.
1. "How do i get the maximum color quality for outdoor pictures? what adjustments do i make to the camera?"
I can't teach you the basics of photography in a Y!A question. There isn't enough room.
2. "How do i take pictures at the party with low-dim lighting?"
Fast lenses, a shoe mount flash angled to bounce on the ceiling or walls.
3. "How would you suggest i take pictures at the party without being in peoples' way?"
Don;t get in their way ... it;s that simple. The 24-70 f2.8 should give you enough reach to stay mostly out of the way.
4. "What exposure should i use when taking pictures at the party? (ISO #??)"
I can't teach you the basics of photography in a Y!A question. There isn't enough room.
Learn how to use manual mode, your cameras built in light meter and the fundamentals of exposure.
There are entire books on the subject, a good one to pick up is "Understanding exposure".
5. "What aperture adjustments should i use when doing outdoor and indoor photos?"
See #4
6. "What is the best image editing software to use for these photos?"
None. Just use DPP (came with your camera) to make slight adjustments to exposure and white balance as needed and to convert to jpeg.
You are a photographer, not a retoucher, designer or digital artist.
7. "What white balance adjustments do i need to make for indoor and outdoor photos?"
Shoot in raw and it won;t matter ... if you shoot in raw you can switch the white balance on the fly in post processing ... just leave it on auto and worry about it afterwards ... as long as you are shooting in RAW.
8. "What kind of lens hood should i buy for the outdoor photos?"
Well, you don;t REALLY need one as long as you can control your position. A hood is needed to remove glare on the lens that causes flare ... this is caused by light hitting the surface of the lens at an angle ... just avoid that angle. Otherwise, just get a proper hood for your lens size.
Now ... about your comments to Steve ...
If you aren't a professional and admit your aren't ready then you shouldn't be doing the work of a pro. If you screw this up, the lady would be in her rights to sue you for failure to meeto your contractual obligations.
It happens ALL THE TIME. Actually, there was an article about a guy who decided to sue 6 years after the event (a wedding).
Here is what happens to amateurs who go into photography business unprepared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjBSIvg3pjc
or
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2668137/Couple-sue-over-wedding-snaps.html
or
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45144944/ns/us_news-life/#.TrJ6SUMr2dA
The moment you accept money for this, you set legal expectations ... be certain you can meet them.
So doing a paid gig with just one camera and a kit lens ... what will you do if your camera stops working mid shoot? You won't be bale to complete the contract and you are putting yourself at risk of being sued.
Your camera is fine but you need a backup, your kit lens is too slow and soft, rent a 24-70 f2.8 (30$ for a day/wekend). You'll also need two flashes (rental cost: 18$ each).
Now on to your points.
1. "How do i get the maximum color quality for outdoor pictures? what adjustments do i make to the camera?"
I can't teach you the basics of photography in a Y!A question. There isn't enough room.
2. "How do i take pictures at the party with low-dim lighting?"
Fast lenses, a shoe mount flash angled to bounce on the ceiling or walls.
3. "How would you suggest i take pictures at the party without being in peoples' way?"
Don;t get in their way ... it;s that simple. The 24-70 f2.8 should give you enough reach to stay mostly out of the way.
4. "What exposure should i use when taking pictures at the party? (ISO #??)"
I can't teach you the basics of photography in a Y!A question. There isn't enough room.
Learn how to use manual mode, your cameras built in light meter and the fundamentals of exposure.
There are entire books on the subject, a good one to pick up is "Understanding exposure".
5. "What aperture adjustments should i use when doing outdoor and indoor photos?"
See #4
6. "What is the best image editing software to use for these photos?"
None. Just use DPP (came with your camera) to make slight adjustments to exposure and white balance as needed and to convert to jpeg.
You are a photographer, not a retoucher, designer or digital artist.
7. "What white balance adjustments do i need to make for indoor and outdoor photos?"
Shoot in raw and it won;t matter ... if you shoot in raw you can switch the white balance on the fly in post processing ... just leave it on auto and worry about it afterwards ... as long as you are shooting in RAW.
8. "What kind of lens hood should i buy for the outdoor photos?"
Well, you don;t REALLY need one as long as you can control your position. A hood is needed to remove glare on the lens that causes flare ... this is caused by light hitting the surface of the lens at an angle ... just avoid that angle. Otherwise, just get a proper hood for your lens size.
Now ... about your comments to Steve ...
If you aren't a professional and admit your aren't ready then you shouldn't be doing the work of a pro. If you screw this up, the lady would be in her rights to sue you for failure to meeto your contractual obligations.
It happens ALL THE TIME. Actually, there was an article about a guy who decided to sue 6 years after the event (a wedding).
Here is what happens to amateurs who go into photography business unprepared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjBSIvg3pjc
or
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2668137/Couple-sue-over-wedding-snaps.html
or
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45144944/ns/us_news-life/#.TrJ6SUMr2dA
The moment you accept money for this, you set legal expectations ... be certain you can meet them.
Canon lens for wedding?
Missy C
I got a canon xsi with the kit lens for christmas and I am getting married this summer. I have a friend that takes really great pictures and she is going to take my wedding pictures (we are on a budget). I like the kit lens, but it doesn't zoom in very far, and I know she will probably need a lens that will zoom more... do I need another lens and if so, which one.
Also, I was reading something about a wide angle lens... what is this and why would you need one? I just dont see how you would carry all of this stuff around with you...
Please dont talk down to me because of my choice not to hire a professional, or my ignorance on this topic. Please only reply if you want to help me.. Thanks in advance
Answer
What lens you need depends a great deal on the venue and where she will be allowed to be. Also how much light you have. A 200mm at f/5.6 (as most consumer lenses are) is not going to be of much use if you need f/2.8 @ 1/10 and ISO800 just to get the exposure. If you need a fast lens, I would buy the Canon 50mm f/1.8. Nice portrait lens on a crop sensor. Fast enough for dark conditions. Sharp. Relatively cheap. Easily available. *But* wide open or near maximum aperture will leave no room for focus error.
Why wide angle? WA is where about 80% of my wedding coverage lands. I use a 50mm f/1.4 and a 17-50 f/2.8 a lot in digital wedding coverage. (For film, I prefer a 24-85 and the 50mm.) The 70-200 not as much. Most of the getting ready, formals, groups and reception shots will probably require wide angle. Your kit lens (is it 18-55 or so?) will cover the that end adequately if you have enough light, either ambient or by using flash or off camera lighting. If you don't have a flash, get one. Yeah, a flash and a 50mm lens will be the most bang for your buck. The 580EX is what the Canonites use frequently for weddings, I believe. (Sorry I am not sure, I use Nikon, so not positive on the model number.) Get a diffuser of some sort and practice using it. The Fong Lightsphere, Demb, Stofen and Bounce card are commonly used and not that difficult to learn. If you are familiar with manual flash output you will do fine after a few weeks practice. You will have to modify your flash output for the light loss, but your flash photos will be vastly improved. If the surroundings are fairly dark, you will want to drag the shutter to avoid the deer in headlights look.
Don't forget to have a backup camera of some sort. I have three, sometimes four camera bodies with lenses and flashes at every wedding. As an amateur of course you probably won't have access to or need that much. But do get a second camera of some kind, film or digital, and have it primed and ready to go with fresh batteries and memory or film.. When I am shooting, I usually have two setups around my neck, one with WA lens and one tele, or sometimes one film and one digi. Things can and do break, balk or fail so be prepared.
Here is the lecture portion of my program. Being "ignorant" of various lenses and camera gear is fine. I am ignorant about a lot of things. If I need to know, I ask, or more likely do some research, just like you are. Here is my caution to you: Be very **very** VERY sure the photos do not matter that much to you. Your friend may be a good photographer of her kids in the park, landscapes, bugs or pets etc etc etc, but has she shot weddings before? She may do a fabulous job, if the photo gods are smiling and the light is perfect and everything goes to plan. But what is her plan using the kit lens from 300 feet away in a dark cave of a sanctuary trying to capture the vows when she needs ISO 4000 at f/5.6 and 2s? (OK, I am exaggerating, but not by much.) Can she cover several different happenings at once? Weddings are sorta like little mini plays with several different stages. It is hard to make all that flow until you have done it quite a bit. If you miss something, it is gone. There are no excuses and very few do-overs. That is why we are always advising new wedding shooters to assist with a pro for some amount of time. Takes the pressure off and allows one to learn, but not at the expense of mucking up a couple's wedding photos. The point is, you don't have an ideal setup equipment wise. Combining that with an in-experienced photographer might mean you get less than good images of your once in a lifetime big day. So be certain it is OK if you end up with a bunch of mediocre snapshots, and be sure your friendship can stand that strain if it does happen. And if the pictures are great, you can be thankful and relieved (and uncannily lucky) and get your friend a nice gift for performing like a champ.
Best wishes on your upcoming nuptials.
What lens you need depends a great deal on the venue and where she will be allowed to be. Also how much light you have. A 200mm at f/5.6 (as most consumer lenses are) is not going to be of much use if you need f/2.8 @ 1/10 and ISO800 just to get the exposure. If you need a fast lens, I would buy the Canon 50mm f/1.8. Nice portrait lens on a crop sensor. Fast enough for dark conditions. Sharp. Relatively cheap. Easily available. *But* wide open or near maximum aperture will leave no room for focus error.
Why wide angle? WA is where about 80% of my wedding coverage lands. I use a 50mm f/1.4 and a 17-50 f/2.8 a lot in digital wedding coverage. (For film, I prefer a 24-85 and the 50mm.) The 70-200 not as much. Most of the getting ready, formals, groups and reception shots will probably require wide angle. Your kit lens (is it 18-55 or so?) will cover the that end adequately if you have enough light, either ambient or by using flash or off camera lighting. If you don't have a flash, get one. Yeah, a flash and a 50mm lens will be the most bang for your buck. The 580EX is what the Canonites use frequently for weddings, I believe. (Sorry I am not sure, I use Nikon, so not positive on the model number.) Get a diffuser of some sort and practice using it. The Fong Lightsphere, Demb, Stofen and Bounce card are commonly used and not that difficult to learn. If you are familiar with manual flash output you will do fine after a few weeks practice. You will have to modify your flash output for the light loss, but your flash photos will be vastly improved. If the surroundings are fairly dark, you will want to drag the shutter to avoid the deer in headlights look.
Don't forget to have a backup camera of some sort. I have three, sometimes four camera bodies with lenses and flashes at every wedding. As an amateur of course you probably won't have access to or need that much. But do get a second camera of some kind, film or digital, and have it primed and ready to go with fresh batteries and memory or film.. When I am shooting, I usually have two setups around my neck, one with WA lens and one tele, or sometimes one film and one digi. Things can and do break, balk or fail so be prepared.
Here is the lecture portion of my program. Being "ignorant" of various lenses and camera gear is fine. I am ignorant about a lot of things. If I need to know, I ask, or more likely do some research, just like you are. Here is my caution to you: Be very **very** VERY sure the photos do not matter that much to you. Your friend may be a good photographer of her kids in the park, landscapes, bugs or pets etc etc etc, but has she shot weddings before? She may do a fabulous job, if the photo gods are smiling and the light is perfect and everything goes to plan. But what is her plan using the kit lens from 300 feet away in a dark cave of a sanctuary trying to capture the vows when she needs ISO 4000 at f/5.6 and 2s? (OK, I am exaggerating, but not by much.) Can she cover several different happenings at once? Weddings are sorta like little mini plays with several different stages. It is hard to make all that flow until you have done it quite a bit. If you miss something, it is gone. There are no excuses and very few do-overs. That is why we are always advising new wedding shooters to assist with a pro for some amount of time. Takes the pressure off and allows one to learn, but not at the expense of mucking up a couple's wedding photos. The point is, you don't have an ideal setup equipment wise. Combining that with an in-experienced photographer might mean you get less than good images of your once in a lifetime big day. So be certain it is OK if you end up with a bunch of mediocre snapshots, and be sure your friendship can stand that strain if it does happen. And if the pictures are great, you can be thankful and relieved (and uncannily lucky) and get your friend a nice gift for performing like a champ.
Best wishes on your upcoming nuptials.
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