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Isabeau
I am thinking of taking a photography class at my local community college. What is a good "starter" camera?
It has to be 35mm with f-stop and shutter controls.
I am completely clueless and don't know what those things are or where to look. I'd like to spend as little as possible.
Thank you!
Answer
I'm a Nikon guy so my answer might be a bit biased.
I'd recomend the D40, its $490 at Adorama, my favorite photo retailing site.
http://www.adorama.com/INKD40KSD.html?searchinfo=nikon%20D40%20outfit&item_no=4
That kit comes with the camera, a zoom lens, and a memory card, everything you need to start taking pictures. The camera has both f/stop and shutter controls, but isn't technically 35mm, its actually 24mm (if I remember correctly.) They aren't really any 'starter' 35mm digital cameras, you'd have to spend well over a thousand dollars for a 35mm digital. I'm sure your photo teacher just means it can't be a point and shoot. If he really means it has to be a 35mm film camera, then your choices are near limitless, but you're almost certainly going to be buying used.
The great thing about the Nikon (or Canon) system is that it can grow with you. If photography is something you get into you can buy new lenses and accessories to complement the camera you have, and when you want to get a new camera, it will work with the lenses you've already bought.
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Edit - It looks like the other responders are certain you really do need a film camera. If the class has anything related to developing and working in a darkroom then you definitely DO need a film camera.
I'd still recommend a Nikon, especially an older one. Nikon lenses are MUCH easier to find, just because in the company's ~50 year history of making SLRs the lens mount hasn't changed (though certain other things about lens compatibility have) whereas old Canon lenses don't work on new Canon camera and vice versa. I completely agree with the responder who recommended the FM-10, available here with a lens for less than $200 (used). http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20304835.html?searchinfo=nikon%20fm-10&item_no=4
I'm a Nikon guy so my answer might be a bit biased.
I'd recomend the D40, its $490 at Adorama, my favorite photo retailing site.
http://www.adorama.com/INKD40KSD.html?searchinfo=nikon%20D40%20outfit&item_no=4
That kit comes with the camera, a zoom lens, and a memory card, everything you need to start taking pictures. The camera has both f/stop and shutter controls, but isn't technically 35mm, its actually 24mm (if I remember correctly.) They aren't really any 'starter' 35mm digital cameras, you'd have to spend well over a thousand dollars for a 35mm digital. I'm sure your photo teacher just means it can't be a point and shoot. If he really means it has to be a 35mm film camera, then your choices are near limitless, but you're almost certainly going to be buying used.
The great thing about the Nikon (or Canon) system is that it can grow with you. If photography is something you get into you can buy new lenses and accessories to complement the camera you have, and when you want to get a new camera, it will work with the lenses you've already bought.
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Edit - It looks like the other responders are certain you really do need a film camera. If the class has anything related to developing and working in a darkroom then you definitely DO need a film camera.
I'd still recommend a Nikon, especially an older one. Nikon lenses are MUCH easier to find, just because in the company's ~50 year history of making SLRs the lens mount hasn't changed (though certain other things about lens compatibility have) whereas old Canon lenses don't work on new Canon camera and vice versa. I completely agree with the responder who recommended the FM-10, available here with a lens for less than $200 (used). http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20304835.html?searchinfo=nikon%20fm-10&item_no=4
How do you know what camera is best for you?
theperson
I know that I want to get either a canon or nikon camera.
But how do I know where to go from there?
Answer
Its a kinda catch 22 question, the short answer is you don't till you try them.
Unless you have a specific specialized field of interest such as Astrophotography where you would not buy a Nikon as you can't turn off the noise reduction feature, theres not a lot to choose between any of the major manufacturers, that includes Sony, Olympus and Pentax too.
Basically a camera is a light tight box with a sensor and shutter in it. Far more important are the lenses as they have a direct bearing on image quality. The camera body just needs to have the functions you might need in the future, to be well built, the controls should fall naturally under your fingers, and the viewfinder should be large and bright. These are the basics.
Canon changed their lens mount over the years so their older (cheaper) lenses don't work. The build quality and viewfinders on entry level are not too good compared with other makes. Its the most expensive system by far to buy into, but they are good cameras and are well supported by third party manufacturers and even camera hackers (people who get into the cameras operating system and add functions) as a result they have the most extensive range of 'add ons' for specialist uses.
Nikon have good backwards compatibility, but their entry level cameras (D40 and D60) can't make use of it, you have to buy the more expensive range of lenses if you want auto focus. They don't have the extensive range of functions found on most other cameras, even basic things such as auto bracketing and limited focus points. They do have good build quality and their lenses are very good too.
Sony have all the functions you would expect from an electronics giant, but the lens system is relatively limited.
Pentax checks all the boxes, a massive range of lenses all of which can be used, some with limitations (if the lens was manual focus when made it still will be for instance), good build quality, good viewfinder, full range of functions you won't grow out of. Pentax lenses are legendary, if you wear glasses chances are your looking through Pentax lenses right now. You can use any Pentax lens made since 1973 (when they brought out the K mount) all will be anti shake as its built into the camera.
Olympus has all the functions and build quality is good, the Zukio range of lenses are some of the best ever made IMHO. Unfortunately they are not as well supported by third party lens and flash manufacturers which is kinda ironic as their 4/3rds lens system was supposed to be the 'universal' lens mount, they tend to be more expensive, but quality is very good.
Chris
Its a kinda catch 22 question, the short answer is you don't till you try them.
Unless you have a specific specialized field of interest such as Astrophotography where you would not buy a Nikon as you can't turn off the noise reduction feature, theres not a lot to choose between any of the major manufacturers, that includes Sony, Olympus and Pentax too.
Basically a camera is a light tight box with a sensor and shutter in it. Far more important are the lenses as they have a direct bearing on image quality. The camera body just needs to have the functions you might need in the future, to be well built, the controls should fall naturally under your fingers, and the viewfinder should be large and bright. These are the basics.
Canon changed their lens mount over the years so their older (cheaper) lenses don't work. The build quality and viewfinders on entry level are not too good compared with other makes. Its the most expensive system by far to buy into, but they are good cameras and are well supported by third party manufacturers and even camera hackers (people who get into the cameras operating system and add functions) as a result they have the most extensive range of 'add ons' for specialist uses.
Nikon have good backwards compatibility, but their entry level cameras (D40 and D60) can't make use of it, you have to buy the more expensive range of lenses if you want auto focus. They don't have the extensive range of functions found on most other cameras, even basic things such as auto bracketing and limited focus points. They do have good build quality and their lenses are very good too.
Sony have all the functions you would expect from an electronics giant, but the lens system is relatively limited.
Pentax checks all the boxes, a massive range of lenses all of which can be used, some with limitations (if the lens was manual focus when made it still will be for instance), good build quality, good viewfinder, full range of functions you won't grow out of. Pentax lenses are legendary, if you wear glasses chances are your looking through Pentax lenses right now. You can use any Pentax lens made since 1973 (when they brought out the K mount) all will be anti shake as its built into the camera.
Olympus has all the functions and build quality is good, the Zukio range of lenses are some of the best ever made IMHO. Unfortunately they are not as well supported by third party lens and flash manufacturers which is kinda ironic as their 4/3rds lens system was supposed to be the 'universal' lens mount, they tend to be more expensive, but quality is very good.
Chris
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